Saturday, November 17th

[breakingrote]

Dan 1:15 And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat.

I think this verse is suggesting that a vegan diet is superior to one containing meat and animal bi-products (earlier in the chapter Daniel asks for only veggies).

Of course, God does condone the eating of meat, that is clear. However, I think that that allowance is out of necessity because there are many places in the world that if not for the eating of animals and their bi-products (Example: Mongolia: Here if it weren't for the goats they wouldn't have anything to eat; which is mostly goat meat and milk), the people would starve.

God connotes, in my opinion, that a vegan diet, if possible, is a diet of superiority. I don't believe you will achieve a greater standing with God by being a vegan; but do believe God gives us the knowledge here that a vegan diet is very beneficial.

Signed: BreakingRote

P.S. Once again, if you do not agree feel free to challenge this opinion. I'm more then open to further learning.

[Jerod W. Rickert]

OK, couple things here...

I think that you are not entirely off-base here, but I believe that a closer look may reveal something further...

#1, a vegan diet IS a very healthy diet, but I believe that the best meat addition to the vegan diet can be found in Leviticus 11...

#2, I think that in addition to a dietary issue, this verse (and the lead-an as well as results) get to the heart of the scriptures as an entirety: obedience = success

It was Daniel's obedience to God and his steadfast holding to the truths that God had laid before him, that led to the success he had. I believe that if we could catch hold of this deeper truth and realize that our success in life is directly related to how we obey God and keep His commands. If we would simply hold fast to the truths we have been shown, our paths would be so much smoother. That is not to imply that life would be easy, flawless or without hitch, but it would certainly lead us to a place where the incidentals of life would fall into their proper perspective.

Thanx for the awesome verse, and for the insight, br, much appreciated!!!

[breakingrote]

In part this was an obedience issue, I agree, but I don't believe that to be the soul lesson to be learned here. I don't believe that God, in this instance, was pulling an Isaac offering (a full blown test of faith and obedience). In the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were both vegans which makes me believe that God built us as vegetarians. If God wanted this to be a demonstration of obedience I think, given Gods history in these sort of tests, that he would have set up far more dire circumstances.

Regardless, thanks for the point of view Jarod. Maybe it was a simple test of obedience...

signed: BreakingRote

[Jerod W. Rickert]

br, I think there is no such thing as a SIMPLE test of obedience, LOL...

You have actually already started one of my future debate of the weeks, LOL: Animal or Vegetable?? What is God's diet??

But that's OK, any and all of the non-essentials of the Scriptures are ALWAYS fun for debate ...

For the record, I honestly do believe that this is one of those areas of scripture that has several interpretations, and neither view-point would be incorrect...

But since God showed Peter the cornucopia of "unclean food", I'M GONNA EAT PORK!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D